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This has been grabbing my attention....big trend in cloud seeding corporations for hire.  Nobody asked me if I wanted clouds, rain, or the sun today!

 

U.S. Senate Bill S601 (introduced by Senator Kay Bail Hutchison-Texas), might be passed by the U.S. Senate,   and allows anyone to mitigate or modify your weather without public notification, consent, oversight or debate. This bill could also be added as an amendment to other legislation and passed. The implication for agriculture, watersheds, water supplies, and who will receive the benefits or the negative consequences are hidden from public

 

view.http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-601

 

The most common sponsors of cloud seeding projects include water agencies, municipalities, operators of hydroelectric power facilities, agricultural or ranching interests, airports and recreational interests such as ski areas.  An increasing number of sponsors are incorporating cloud seeding as an integral part of their ongoing water resource management strategies.

The materials used in cloud seeding include two primary categories, tied to the type of precipitation process involved.  One category includes those which act as glaciogenic (ice-forming) agents, such as silver iodide, dry ice and compressed liquid propane or carbon dioxide, which are appropriate in cloud systems where the precipitation process is primarily cold (colder than freezing).  Of the ice-forming materials, the most commonly used is silver iodide.  The second major category is focused on cloud systems where the warm (coalescence) process predominates.  In those environments, hygroscopic (water attracting) materials such as salt, urea and ammonium nitrate can be utilized.  Of the hygroscopic materials, the most commonly used are salts.


There are ongoing questions about the effectiveness of cloud seeding, there also are some issues tied to the potential negative impact of some seeding agents. Silver iodide (arguably the most common seeding agent), in particular, is toxic when ingested. It certainly can be argued that the seeding agents are very widely dispersed, so that any one location would get only a microscopic dose of this poison in its rainfall. However, there are at least two problems with this line of reasoning.

First, the seeding agent presumably is scavenged from the clouds and the air by the rainfall. Hence, the rain itself will contain and concentrate this poison. It might be taken up by plants (and eaten by livestock) or get into the groundwater supply. I don't know if silver iodide is like lead or not, where each dose accumulates, or if the agent is broken down quickly into some harmless by-product by some natural process. My suspicion is that this product does not bio-degrade readily. I also don't know if anyone has studied comprehensively what actually happens to silver iodide in the environment. There are many toxic chemicals that can have negative environmental effects even at relatively low average concentrations.

Second, if seeding with silver iodide were to become widespread and routine, the amount of the agent being dispersed would increase. What might be relatively safe at the current relatively low dosages might become hazardous if seeding becomes a normal behavior, unless it can be shown conclusively that the agent either bio-degrades harmlessly or does not accumulate to toxic levels from repeated applications for some reason.

 

It's not obvious to me that the environmental impact of seeding agents has been given enough careful consideration.

http://www.flame.org/~cdoswell/wxmod/wxmod.html

 

Rapid development of corporations that perform operational cloud seeding, which intend to modify everyone's weather in a large area, without the consent of a majority of the affected people (indeed, without informing most affected people).

Among other concerns, it is possible that some unregulated commercial cloud seeding contaminate scientific experiments on cloud seeding.  It is premature to be conducting operational cloud seeding before such programs have been scientifically proven to be safe and effective.

 

The need for publication of the results of weather modification experiments in archival professional journals and books to share knowledge, to prevent repetition of past mistakes, as well as to provide a basis for public recognition of a technique as safe and effective.

There are two contrasting attitudes about publication. Scientists doing basic research are oriented toward publication, because that is how they build their professional reputation amongst other scientists. On the other hand, industrial employers of technicians and engineers commonly regard their discoveries as proprietary information that gives the employer an advantage in a competitive marketplace.

It is incorrect to frame these contrasting attitudes about publications as professors vs. employees of industrial corporations, because research scientists employed by major for-profit corporations (e.g., Langmuir and Vonnegut at General Electric Company) are often prolific authors. Industrial corporations can protect their financial investment in scientific research through patents, or make a profit on research contracts with the government that involve publication of results of basic scientific research.

However, commercial cloud seeders are small for-profit companies that can not afford to engage in basic research (i.e., these small companies can not afford to do what General Electric did in 1946 in sponsoring Langmuir's and Vonnegut's work on cloud seeding, nor what Bell Telephone Laboratories did in other areas of science and engineering). The goal of a company is to serve its customers: clients of commercial cloud seeders want modified weather, not scientific experiments, and not technical publications in scientific journals.

http://agriculturedefensecoalition.org/?q=weather-modifications

http://www.rbs2.com/w2.htm

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Comment by Ellen on December 14, 2012 at 9:13am

Comment by Robert on March 8, 2012 at 12:03am

I saw some heavy spraying last month as well... I wonder if they're spraying at night too...

Comment by Ellen on March 7, 2012 at 11:28am

Really couldn't help but notice this morning sky had these crazy lines.......could all the frenetic air traffic be due to this......

The high energy proton levels continue to rise following the strong solar flare from very early this morning. 
A moderate S2 Level Radiation Storm is in progress andcontinues to rise. Strong S3 Level Radiation Storm levels are imminent.
The increase in proton levels are a direct result of the major solar flare activity from early Wednesday morning around Sunspo 1429.

Comment by Ellen on January 6, 2012 at 11:46am

Lines in the sky.........lots, and lots yesterday, this morning.

quote by jackabilly " I’m not sure what’s nuttier, contrail conspiracy theorists, or chemtrail conspiracy debunkers……The people crying wolf, or the people saying ‘these wolves are harmless’

Comment by Ellen on May 5, 2011 at 10:45am

I can understand this atmospheric science explanation for trails, but do not understand the timing, I have been looking for trails since 7:30 this morning, did not see any until 9:30, 10:00, in force??????

 

For today...high and middle level cloudiness will gradually increase 
as a middle level ridge shifts east of the area...and an upper level
trough approaches the middle/upper MS River Valley from the plains.
Surface anticyclone across northern Indiana this morning will track
eastward allowing southerly flow to develop by middle morning...with
surface pressure gradient further strengthening late morning into this
afternoon. Strongest gradient will exist across northwest and
North Central Indiana this afternoon...and ksbn will be inline for
strongest gusts into the 20 to 25 knot range during the afternoon.
Blocking ridge across southeast United States will not allow these
south winds to transport much moisture northward today...and thus
dry forecast for terminals through the day will hold. Better low
level moisture moves into the area tonight as upper trough and
associated frontal boundary approach. Strongest forcing does
appear to split the area to the north and south...but confidence
is medium to high in at least some light shower activity affecting
ksbn during the overnight hours.

 

Comment by Ellen on May 3, 2011 at 10:55am

 According to this website:

http://contrailscience.com/contrail-grids-are-not-chemtrail-grids/

 

Not natural, are artificial, but normal????

Aircraft contrails making patterns  are not natural – they are clearly artificial. But they are a normal product of a lot of airliners flying along relatively narrow flight routes.

this...

The atmosphere is often supersaturated with ice (a condition that causes persistent contrails) immediately prior to a front moving in…and thus, the fact that you see persistent contrails right before it rains is highly logical and easily explained by basic atmospheric science.

Comment by Ellen on April 27, 2011 at 5:00pm

Is weather modification contributing to these ongoing, epic, unprecendented,  tornadoic, devastating, storms?

One source says hygroscopic chemtrails(lingering contrails) cause high pressure, and advection.
Add glaciogenic aerosols to cause rain and you have sheer.
Advection + sheer = tornadoes.

Man made destruction.

 

Of course, according to the weatherunderground blog, these epic storms are all due to natural events.....uh huh.

Tornadoes, floods, and fires continue to pound U.S.

Low pressure system currently over Arkansas moves eastwards over the "high risk" area. Strong daytime heating in a very moist, unstable air mass will allow a tremendous amount of energy to build up ahead of the front. The arrival of the cold front will force the warm, moist air upwards, allowing the pent-up energy to burst out and fuel supercell thunderstorms.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
Comment by Ellen on April 12, 2011 at 9:26am

A post from Weather Underground  taken from a new study published in Nature......says that the lingering contrails(aerosol spraying), or spreading contrails, not the original line-shaped contrails, are exacerbating global warming, but does not state outright that these lingering contrails are being spread intentionally(obvious  X, and grid patterns)...have they been using our skies on a global scale in one big, grand experiment to get these data results?

 

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v1/n1/full/nclimate1068.html 

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=18...

Comment by Eric Stallsmith on April 1, 2011 at 12:44pm

wow, i didnt know things were so widespread.  I know silver is a powerful anti bacterial.  I also know that many animals breathe directly through their skin.

 

Seems pretty crazy that all this is going on.

 

Great links

Comment by Ellen on April 1, 2011 at 8:21am

lots of x's again this morning, have not seen any since March 18......ok, here we go again....  a cold front alert issued by the NWS today brought the side by side trails and x's

NWS statement:

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

A COLD FRONT IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO
VALLEY MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE
EXPECTED TO ACCOMPANY THE FRONT. THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR THE
AIRMASS TO BECOME MOIST AND UNSTABLE AHEAD OF THE FRONT. IN
ADDITION...A FAVORABLE WIND ENVIRONMENT MAY PRECEDE THE FRONT AS
WELL. THIS COMBINATION MAY RESULT IN A FEW SEVERE STORMS MONDAY
INTO MONDAY NIGHT. CONTINUE TO MONITOR LATER FORECASTS FOR
UPDATES.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

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